NCT06926660CompletedPhase 2
A Study to Test Whether Vicadrostat in Combination With Empagliflozin Helps People With Chronic Kidney Disease
A Phase II Randomised, Double-blind, Parallel-group, Multicentre, International Trial to Investigate the Safety and Efficacy of Vicadrostat and Empagliflozin Administered With Simultaneous vs Staggered Initiation in Participants With Chronic Kidney Disease at Risk of Kidney Disease Progression
Source: ClinicalTrials.gov · Last updated 30 Sept 2026
Brief summary (registry, in English)
This study is open to adults with chronic kidney disease (CKD) that is at risk of getting worse. People who have taken a specific type of medication for kidney disease called SGLT2 inhibitor within 1 month before the study or have certain health conditions cannot take part in this study. The purpose of this study is to find out whether a medicine called vicadrostat, used in combination with another medicine called empagliflozin, works in people with chronic kidney disease. In this study, participants are randomly assigned to one of two groups. Participants have an equal chance of being assigned to either group. In one group, participants take the 2 study medicines, vicadrostat and empagliflozin, every day for 3 months. In the other group, participants take placebo and empagliflozin for the first 1.5 months, and then they take vicadrostat and empagliflozin together for the next 1.5 months. The study medicines are taken orally as tablets. Placebo tablets look like vicadrostat tablets but do not contain any medicine. Participants are in the study for about 4.5 months. During this time, they visit the study site multiple times. Doctors regularly test kidney function by measuring specific proteins in the blood and urine. The results are compared between the two groups to see whether there are differences between starting the study medicines at the same time or one after the other. The doctors also regularly check participants' health and take note of any unwanted effects.
- Status (registry)
- Completed
- Phase (registry)
- Phase 2
- Study type
- Interventional
- Enrollment
- 492 (actual)
- First submitted
- 11 Apr 2025
- Start date
- 18 Jul 2025
- Primary completion date
- 14 Aug 2026
- Lead sponsor
- Boehringer Ingelheim
- Diseases
- Chronic kidney disease
- NCT number
- NCT06926660
- EU CT number
- 2024-518457-42-00
What you commit to
- Study type: Interventional · Phase 2
- Participants enrolled: 492
- From 18 Jul 2025 to the primary completion date, 14 Aug 2026
- 161 sites in 24 countries
- Visits and tests: ask the trial team, the registry does not list them
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Who cannot take part
Copied verbatim from ClinicalTrials.gov and grouped by topic. Only the trial team decides who can take part.
Prior treatment
- On dialysis, functioning kidney transplant, or scheduled for transplant.
- Treated with new immunosuppression therapy for new (or relapse/flare of pre-existing) kidney disease within the last 60 days.
- Currently treated with systemic mineralocorticoid replacement therapy (e.g. fludrocortisone).
- Further exclusion criteria apply.
Other illness
- Known severe hepatic impairment (i.e. Child Pugh class C cirrhosis).
Lab values
- Treatment with an SGLT2i within 4 weeks before Visit 2. Treatment with a sodium glucose co transporter 2 inhibitor (SGLT2i) should not be interrupted with the intention of enrolment into the trial.
- Treatment with an mineralocorticoid receptor antagonist (MRA), aldosterone synthase inhibitor (ASi), or potassium-sparing diuretic(s) within 14 days prior to Visit 1, or requiring such treatment before randomisation, or planned during the trial, based on the judgment of the investigator. Treatment with an MRA or ASi should not be interrupted with the intention of enrolment into the trial.
- Blood potassium of \>5.2 mmol/L at Visit 1.
- Blood Alanine aminotransferase (ALT) or Aspartate aminotransferase (AST) \>3x Upper limit of normal (ULN) at Visit 1.
Who the study is looking for
- At least 18 years old and at least of the legal age of consent in countries where it is greater than 18 years.
- Signed and dated written informed consent in accordance with ICH-GCP and local legislation prior to admission to the trial.
- Male or female participants. Woman of childbearing potential (WOCBP) must be ready and able to use highly effective methods of birth control per International Council on Harmonisation (ICH) M3 (R2) that result in a low failure rate of less than 1% per year when used consistently and correctly. For men, birth control is not required during the trial. A list of contraception methods meeting these criteria and instructions on the duration of use is provided in the participant information.
- Evidence of Chronic Kidney Disease (CKD) at risk of progression based on two Estimated Glomerular Filtration Rate (eGFR) measurements recorded recently (i.e. within 1 year) and at the time of Visit 1, with each Estimated Glomerular Filtration Rate (eGFR) ≥20 and \<60 mL/min/1.73m2, irrespective of urine albumin creatinine ratio (UACR). The first of these measurements will be In Approval assessed from historical local laboratory results, and the second will be determined from serum creatinine analysed by the central laboratory at Visit 1.
- Treatment with a clinically appropriate, stable dose of either Angiotensin-converting enzyme inhibitor (ACEi) or Angiotensin II Receptor Blockers (ARB) (but not both together) for ≥4 weeks before Visit 1, with no planned changes of the therapy for the duration of the trial.
Age in the registry: 18 years to - · Sex: All · Does not accept healthy volunteers
Sites (161)
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| Site | City | Country | Site status |
|---|---|---|---|
| IDIM - Instituto de Diagnóstico e Investigaciones Metabólicas Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | Buenos Aires | Argentina | Unknown status |
| Cedic - Centro de Investigacion Clinica Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | CABA | Argentina | Unknown status |
| Mautalen- Salud e Investigacion Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | CABA | Argentina | Unknown status |
| Instituto Médico Catamarca IMEC Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | Rosario | Argentina | Unknown status |
| CEMEDIC - Centro de Especialidades Medicas Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | Villa Luro | Argentina | Unknown status |
| Austin Health Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | Heidelberg | Australia | Unknown status |
| John Hunter Hospital Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | New Lambton Heights | Australia | Unknown status |
| Royal Perth Hospital Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | Perth | Australia | Unknown status |
| Westmead Hospital Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | Westmead | Australia | Unknown status |
| Hopital Erasme Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | Anderlecht | Belgium | Completed |
| HUmani Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | Charleroi | Belgium | Completed |
| UZ Leuven Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | Leuven | Belgium | Completed |
| Cliniques Universitaires Saint-Luc Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | Sint-Lambrechts-Woluwe | Belgium | Completed |
| Centro de Pesquisa do Hospital Evangelico de Belo Horizonte Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | Belo Horizonte | Brazil | Unknown status |
| Chronos Pesquisa Clínica Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | Brasília | Brazil | Unknown status |
| Galileo Medical Research Ltda. Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | Juiz de Fora | Brazil | Unknown status |
| Fundacao Faculdade Regional de Medicina de Sao Jose do Rio Preto Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | São José do Rio Preto | Brazil | Unknown status |
| CPQuali Pesquisa Clínica Ltda Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | São Paulo | Brazil | Unknown status |
| Centro de Pesquisa Clínica de Nefrologia do ICHC Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | São Paulo | Brazil | Unknown status |
| CEPIC - Centro Paulista de Investigacao Clinica e Servicos Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | São Paulo | Brazil | Unknown status |
| Fundacao Oswaldo Ramos (Hospital do Rim) Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | São Paulo | Brazil | Unknown status |
| Bluewater Clinical Research Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | Sarnia | Canada | Unknown status |
| Heart Health Institute (Scarborough) Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | Scarborough Village | Canada | Unknown status |
| Sunnybrook Health Sciences Centre Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | Toronto | Canada | Unknown status |
| Toronto General Hospital Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | Toronto | Canada | Unknown status |
| Diex Recherche Trois-Rivieres Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | Trois-Rivières | Canada | Unknown status |
| Beijing Tsinghua Changgung Hospital Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | Beijing | China | Unknown status |
| West China Hospital,Sichuan University Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | Chengdu | China | Unknown status |
| Nanfang Hosptial Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | Guangzhou | China | Unknown status |
| Zhejiang Province People's Hospital Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | Hangzhou | China | Unknown status |
| Center Hospital of Jinan Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | Jinan | China | Unknown status |
| The First Affiliated Hospital of NanChang University Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | Nanchang | China | Unknown status |
| The Second Affiliated Hospital of Nanjing Medical University Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | Nanjing | China | Unknown status |
| The First People's Hospital of Nanning Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | Nanning | China | Unknown status |
| Ningbo Second Hospital Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | Ningbo | China | Unknown status |
| General Hospital of Ningxia Medical University Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | Ningxia | China | Unknown status |
| Second Hospital Affiliated to Shantou Medical University Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | Shantou | China | Unknown status |
| Shenzhen Second People's Hospital Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | Shenzhen | China | Unknown status |
| First Affiliated Hospital of Xi'an Jiaotong University Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | Xi'an | China | Unknown status |
| Yibin Second People's Hospital Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | Yibin | China | Unknown status |
| Dum zdravi Havirov s.r.o. Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | Havirov | Czechia | Completed |
| MILAN KVAPIL s.r.o. Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | Příbram | Czechia | Completed |
| Nemocnice Slany Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | Slaný | Czechia | Completed |
| Synexus Clinical Research GmbH Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | Berlin | Germany | Completed |
| Klinikum Bielefeld gGmbH Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | Bielefeld | Germany | Completed |
| Studiengesellschaft Drs Könemann / Steinmann Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | Bünde | Germany | Completed |
| Universitaetsklinikum Carl Gustav Carus Dresden an der Technischen Universitaet Dresden AöR Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | Dresden | Germany | Completed |
| Synexus Clinical Research GmbH Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | Frankfurt am Main | Germany | Completed |
| Goethe University Frankfurt Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | Frankfurt Am Main | Germany | Completed |
| MVZ DaVita Geilenkirchen GmbH Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | Geilenkirchen | Germany | Completed |
| Zentrum Fuer Nieren Hochdruck Und Stoffwechselerkrankungen Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | Hanover | Germany | Completed |
| Medizinische Hochschule Hannover Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | Hanover | Germany | Completed |
| Synexus Clinical Research GmbH Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | Leipzig | Germany | Completed |
| Gemeinschaftspraxis Hamann/Bacčinović/Jacobsen, Dialysezentrum Rotenburg Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | Rotenburg (Wümme) | Germany | Completed |
| Robert Bosch Gesellschaft fuer medizinische Forschung mbH Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | Stuttgart | Germany | Completed |
| Equip D'atencio Primaria Barcelona Sardenya S.L.P. Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | Barcelona | Spain | Completed |
| Centro de Salud Cartagena Casco Antiguo Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | Cartagena | Spain | Completed |
| EAP Osona Sud - Alt Congost S.L.P Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | Centelles | Spain | Completed |
| Centro de Salud Milladoiro Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | O Milladoiro, A Coruña | Spain | Completed |
| Centro de Salud Naranco Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | Oviedo, Principado de Asturias | Spain | Completed |
| Centro de Salud San Juanb Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | Salamanca | Spain | Completed |
| Bicetre Hospital Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | Le Kremlin Bicetre Cedex | France | Completed |
| Centre Hospitalier Universitaire de Nantes Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | Nantes | France | Completed |
| Les Hopitaux Universitaires De Strasbourg Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | Strasbourg Cedex | France | Completed |
| University Hospital Monklands Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | Airdrie | United Kingdom | Unknown status |
| Queen Elizabeth University Hospital Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | Glasgow | United Kingdom | Unknown status |
| Belmont Health Centre Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | Harrow | United Kingdom | Unknown status |
| Velocity Clinical Research, High Wycombe Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | High Wycombe | United Kingdom | Unknown status |
| Richford Gate Medical Practice Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | London | United Kingdom | Unknown status |
| Banbury Cross Health Centre Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | Oxford | United Kingdom | Unknown status |
| Royal Berkshire Hospital Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | Reading | United Kingdom | Unknown status |
| Sunderland Royal Hospital Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | Sunderland | United Kingdom | Unknown status |
| Azienda Sanitaria Locale 2 Lanciano Vasto Chieti Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | Chieti | Italy | Completed |
| Università degli Studi di Perugia Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | Perugia | Italy | Completed |
| Istituto Di Ricerche Farmacologiche Mario Negri Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | Ranica | Italy | Completed |
| Fondazione Policlinico Universitario Agostino Gemelli IRCCS Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | Rome | Italy | Completed |
| Kasugai Municipal Hospital Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | Aichi, Kasugai | Japan | Unknown status |
| National Hospital Organization Chibahigashi National Hospital Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | Chiba, Chiba | Japan | Unknown status |
| Tsuchiura Kyodo General Hospital Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | Ibaraki, Tsuchiura | Japan | Unknown status |
| Saiseikai Yokohamashi Nanbu Hospital Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | Kanagawa, Yokohama | Japan | Unknown status |
| Osaka General Medical Center Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | Osaka, Osaka | Japan | Unknown status |
| OCROM Clinic Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | Osaka, Suita | Japan | Unknown status |
| Ageo Central General Hospital Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | Saitama, Ageo | Japan | Unknown status |
| Omihachiman Community Medical Center Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | Shiga, Omihachiman | Japan | Unknown status |
| Tokyo Medical University Hachioji Medical Center Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | Tokyo, Hachioji | Japan | Unknown status |
| ToCROM Clinic Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | Tokyo, Shinjuku-ku | Japan | Unknown status |
| Korea University Ansan Hospital Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | Ansan-si | South Korea | Unknown status |
| Seoul National University Bundang Hospital Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | Seongnam | South Korea | Unknown status |
| Hanyang University Medical Center Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | Seoul | South Korea | Unknown status |
| The Catholic University of Korea, Eunpyeong St. Mary's Hospital Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | Seoul | South Korea | Unknown status |
| Yonsei University Wonju Severance Christian Hospital Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | Wonju-si, Gangwon State | South Korea | Unknown status |
| Centenario Hospital Miguel Hidalgo Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | Aguascalientes | Mexico | Unknown status |
| Unidad de Investigación Clinica y Atencion Medica HEPA SC Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | Guadalajara | Mexico | Unknown status |
| Medical Care & Research Sa de Cv Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | Mérida | Mexico | Unknown status |
| Clinica Omega Diabetes Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | Mexico City | Mexico | Unknown status |
| Soltmed SMO Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | Mexico City | Mexico | Unknown status |
| Sociedad de Metabolismo y Corazon, S.C. Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | Veracruz | Mexico | Unknown status |
| Hospital Canselor Tuanku Muhriz Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | Cheras | Malaysia | Unknown status |
| Hospital Sultan Idris Shah Serdang Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | Kajang | Malaysia | Unknown status |
| Tuanku Fauziah Hospital Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | Kangar | Malaysia | Unknown status |
| Hospital Kuala Lumpur Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | Kuala Lumpur | Malaysia | Unknown status |
| Amsterdam UMC Stichting Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | Amsterdam | Netherlands | Completed |
| Albert Schweitzer Ziekenhuis Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | Dordrecht | Netherlands | Completed |
| Catharina Ziekenhuis Stichting Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | Eindhoven | Netherlands | Completed |
| Treant Ziekenhuiszorg Stichting Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | Hoogeveen | Netherlands | Completed |
| Dunedin Hospital Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | Dunedin | New Zealand | Unknown status |
| Waikato Hospital Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | Hamilton | New Zealand | Unknown status |
| Momentum Clinical Research - Kapiti Coast Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | Kapiti | New Zealand | Unknown status |
| Norzel Medical and Diagnostic Clinic Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | Cebu City | Philippines | Unknown status |
| Institute for Studies on Diabetes Foundation Inc. Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | Marikina City | Philippines | Unknown status |
| Philippine Heart Center Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | Quezon City | Philippines | Unknown status |
| Centrum Medyczne "Hipokrates" s.c. Elżbieta i Grzegorz Grześk Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | Bydgoszcz | Poland | Completed |
| American Heart of Poland S.A. Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | Chrzanów | Poland | Completed |
| Pro Familia Altera Sp. z o.o. Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | Katowice | Poland | Completed |
| Pro Salus Sp. z o.o.,sp. k. Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | Lodz | Poland | Completed |
| FDI Clinical Research - Mayagüez Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | Mayagüez | Puerto Rico | Unknown status |
| King Chulalongkorn Memorial Hospital Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | Bangkok | Thailand | Unknown status |
| Phramongkutklao Hospital Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | Bangkok | Thailand | Unknown status |
| Siriraj Hospital Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | Bangkok | Thailand | Unknown status |
| Maharaj Nakom Chiangmai Hospital Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | Chiang Mai | Thailand | Unknown status |
| Kaohsiung Medical University Chung-Ho Memorial Hospital Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | Kaohsiung City | Taiwan | Unknown status |
| Taichung Veterans General Hospital Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | Taichung | Taiwan | Unknown status |
| National Taiwan University Hospital Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | Taipei | Taiwan | Unknown status |
| MacKay Memorial Hospital Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | Taipei | Taiwan | Unknown status |
| Orange County Clinical Trials Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | Anaheim | United States | Unknown status |
| Arlington Nephrology Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | Arlington | United States | Unknown status |
| Masters of Clinical Research, Inc Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | Augusta | United States | Unknown status |
| Heritage Valley Medical Group Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | Beaver | United States | Unknown status |
| Boise Kidney and Hypertension PLLC Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | Boise | United States | Unknown status |
| Clinical Research of Brandon, LLC Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | Brandon | United States | Unknown status |
| Southeast Renal Research Institute Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | Chattanooga | United States | Unknown status |
| Research by Design, LLC Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | Chicago | United States | Unknown status |
| Elixia MNA, LLC Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | City of Saint Peters | United States | Unknown status |
| Hillcrest Medical Research Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | DeLand | United States | Unknown status |
| Durham Nephrology Associates Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | Durham | United States | Unknown status |
| Aa Mrc Llc Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | Flint | United States | Unknown status |
| Nephrology Associates of Northern Illinois and Indiana - Fort Wayne Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | Fort Wayne | United States | Unknown status |
| Nephrology Associates of Northern Illinois and Indiana - Oak Brook Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | Hinsdale | United States | Unknown status |
| Encore Medical Research Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | Hollywood | United States | Unknown status |
| Endocrine Associates Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | Houston | United States | Unknown status |
| Apogee Clinical Research Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | Huntsville | United States | Unknown status |
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| West Orange Endocrinology, PA Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | Ocoee | United States | Unknown status |
| Michigan Kidney Consultants Coordinator of this site? Confirm its status | Pontiac | United States | Unknown status |
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